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Conversation between Caetano Veloso and Boaventura de Sousa Santos

Caetano Veloso and Boaventura de Sousa Santos talk without a script, among other subjects, about the connection between Brazil and Portugal, the Portuguese language, the Brazilian political scene, the relationship with nature and contemporary ecological challenges, learnings from indigenous worldviews to think about the future and not as a return to the past, Gilberto Gil, the Portuguese “geringonça” [contraption] (left-wing post-electoral governance agreement to defeat the right), the importance of left-wing unity and hope.